SOME JEFFREY LEWIS SHOWS/TOURS – 2005
(Show dates in 2005 have not been fully documented, especially from Jan-April; about 108 gigs in 2005 listed below)
Fri Jan 7 – Philadelphia, PA- The World Cafe (3025 Walnut St.) w/ Kimya Dawson (This was the gig where the opening act was the young Dr. Dog) doors: 8:00pm >>The show will start with a screening of the film plus two short >>films also on the DVD (including Kimya’s music video) then: >> >>Jeffrey Lewis >>Dr. Dog >>Kimya Dawson. (but did Dr. Dog play 1st or 2nd?)
Sun Jan 9th – Portland ME – 148 Middle St (empty law-office lobby space), Portland, Maine (directly across from Bull Moose Music) 4.30pm, $5 (benefit for the people’s free space) >> >>Tons of free juice and a vegan potluck. >> >>Kimya Dawson >>Jeffrey and Jack Lewis >>Strawberry Allstars (electronica with a heart of gold) >>Darwins Grab Bag (synth noise) (I believe it was at this gig where Jeffrey & Jack played an extremely early version of The Upside-Down Cross; there’s a recording of this gig somewhere)
Sat Jan 22 – NYC – CBGBs – 8pm akron/family 845pm fat worm of error 930 jeffrey lewis 1015 dub trio 1115 dufus 1215 usaisamonster (was this the day of the huge snowstorm?)
Tues Jan 25- Jeffrey Lewis arrives in Paris and then goes to Poitiers, France, to spend 3 days working on a big art comix mural with David Herman Dune
Fri Jan 28- Poitiers, France – Confort Moderne – Jeffrey Lewis (solo acoustic) w/ David-Ivar Herman Dune
Sat Jan 29 – Paris, France – Point Ephemere – Jeffrey Lewis (solo acoustic) w/ David-Ivar Herman Dune and Andre Herman Dune (all taking turns playing songs solo) (350-cap venue, SOLD OUT in advance)
Mon Jan 31 – about Feb 8? – Jeffrey flies from Paris to Porto, Portugal, staying from Jan 31 – Feb 3, meeting Ariel Pink in a bar, plus playing a solo gig in Porto (Feb 2?) then a gig in Lisbon (Feb 4?) (joined in the final days in Porto and also in Lisbon by David Herman Dune.) Then back in Paris by Feb 9 (judging by a date in a 2005 sketchbook.)
Wed Feb 2 – was this the Porto gig or not?
Fri Feb 4 – Porto, Portugal – Aniki-Bóbó – Jeffrey Lewis (solo), w/ special guest David-Ivar Herman Dune
Sat Feb 5 maybe? Lisbon, Portugal – Galeria Zé dos Bois – Jeffrey Lewis (solo), w/ special guest David-Ivar Herman Dune
Feb 10 – Jeffrey is back home in NYC.
Around mid Feb “The Red Hand” (“As I Wandered Across the Land”) is written? Guff 2 is prepared for publication, the first-ever properly printed Jeffrey Lewis comic book (non-photocopied).
Feb 2005: Rough Trade leaves their offices in the Chelsea Hotel and begins a new Rough Trade office in the Chelsea Markets building.
Sat Feb 19 – NYC – Sidewalk – “I’m playing a free show on Ave. A at Sidewalk tonight (Saturday) at 11, Kramer’s meeting me there, also playing at 10:30 is Prewar Yardsale, one NYC’s greatest unknown bands” Fortified Presents The Winter Antifolk Fest 2005! Ten Nights of Antifolk at Sidewalk Cafe 94 Avenue A at 6th Street in NYC Sat.Feb.19 Free (Two drink Minimum) 7:30- Steve Espinola 8-Randi Russo 8:30-Linda Draper 9-Dan Costello; 9:30-Rooster; 10-Joie Dead Blonde Girlfriend; (The last Joie DBG show) 10:30- Prewar Yardsale 11-Jeff Lewis Band
Sun Feb 20- Sat Feb 26: Recording in Tribeca with Kramer, the main sessions for the City & Eastern Songs album. (Also this week R. Stevie Moore emails Jeffrey out of the blue and invites JL to see his gig in the lobby of the Chelsea Hotel, where they meet for 1st time).
Sat Feb 26- Peter Stampfel comes over to Kramer’s friend Virginia’s place, “just a block from the studio, on Franklin > and W. > > Broadway. Basically across the street from the Franklin St. 1/9 > subway” in west soho/tribeca to do some instrument overdubs on the acoustic City & Eastern Songs tracks.
Tues February 22- Jack Lewis will play one or two songs at Bowery Poetry Club, NYC 308 Bowery $8 (includes the cd) Celebrating the Art Star SoundsCompilation Party Prewar Yardsale, Toby Goodshank , Brer Brian. , Soce the Elemental Wizard, Jack Lews, Brief View of the Hudson, Touching You and more!
Wed March 2- NYC – HAPPY ENDING BAR (302 Broome St , Between Forsyth and Eldridge) Happy Endings Music & Readings series. Jeffrey Lewis w/ Gregory Maguire (Wicked) and Jean Nathan (The Secret Life of the Lonely Doll)
Tues March 8 a big snowstorm happened… (making the drive up to Purchase the next day a bit trecherous?)
Wed March 9 Free show at SUNY Purchase! Whitson Memorial Greeting Hall, 9 PM, Sentai, The Clicks, Jeffrey Lewis Band
Jack Lewis has art in the group show “Sympathetic Magic” at Planaria Gallery, 525 W 23rd St , between 10th & 11th Avenues, up till March 26th. Open Tues-Sat.
Sat March 12, Knitting Factory (Old Office) 74 Leonard St., 5 blocks below Canal St, between Broadway and Church. La Mi Vida Violenta, Sentai, The Clicks, Jeffrey Lewis & the Journalists 10:30 doors $7
Tues March 15th – Sin-E, 150 Attorney St at Stanton St, 8 $. 8 PM – Jeff Lewis & The Jars 9 PM – “Chris Glover” 10 – Amy Shea 11 – Talking Buddha
(THIS is also around the time an earlier [first?] edition of TheJeffreyLewisSite.com launched, mostly due to the work of Brian Piltin!)
Wed March 23 – NYC – Lit Lounge (2nd Ave & 5th St) 9:00 edie segwick 9:30 dream bitches 10:00 jeff lewis band 10:30 cheese on bread and the show ends at 11:15.
Wed, March 30 – Purchase College, Whitson’s student center (735 Anderson Hill Rd, Purchase NY). 8:30 – TALIBAM 9:10 – ORION 10:45 – LORD OF THE YUM-YUM 11:30 JEFFREY LEWIS BAND
Thurs, March 31 – Philadelphia PA, World Café Live. Jeffrey Lewis solo acoustic as part of Cross Pollination VI, with Undisputed Heavyweights and Dave Duporis. Show Starts 7:30 PM, free. 3025 Walnut St. 215-222-1400
Sat, April 2 – Wesleyan University (switched from friday), Eclectic (a society at Wesleyan), 200 High Street, Middletown Connecticut, Jeffrey Lewis Band, with Chromeo and Need New Body. Free. (Did this gig NOT happen? See April 7, which supposedly replaced this gig? But then there was ALSO a Wesleyan gig on April 16?)
Sun April 3 – possible Bard College show, Jeffrey Lewis Band with Dan Deacon… for info email Jack Lewis at Jewis80@Yahoo.com
Wed April 6 – “Last minute show addition tonight (wed) filling in at Sidewalk… plus other stuff. Wed, April 6 – Sidewalk, NYC (Ave A & E 6th St) 11 PM, free (though you may be forced to buy a drink) Jeffrey Lewis with guest accompaniment from Gregg Weiss.
Thurs, April 7- (switched from April 2nd) Jeffrey Lewis at Wesleyan University, WestCo cafe, Middletown Connecticut, with Dan Deacon. Free. (Next day Jeffrey emailed Jack: “Dan Deacon was fucking amazing last night at Wesleyan, that guy is now at top status in my book.”)
Fri, April 8 – Apocalypse Lounge, 189 east 3rd st (btwn A & B) 212-228-4811 with Dan Deacon and many cool folks. (Jeffrey Lewis on at 1:30 am). Free. Show starts at 8 and also features: The Please Department, Bow N Height, Nicole Schneit & Cario Wings
Sat April 9 – NOT HAPPENING! The earlier-announced show at Blue Stockings with Professor Louie has been postponed till a later date.
Sat April 16- Wesleyan Uni, CT – daytime outdoor gig (Did Gregg Weiss play [and drive] too?)
Mon April 18 – Lit on 2nd Ave NYC between 5th and 6th St. Jeffrey Lewis Band, With Kelly Jones, Marnie Herald (and Sean Lennon?).
Wed April 20 – overdub session with Kramer, for City & Eastern Songs album. Calendar notes for this day say: “overdub (Perry [Robinson]? [John] Kessell?) Bass on Moving? Vocals? Redo Moving bridge?” ALSO – notes say “$5, 8, CBs Gallery” – does that mean we played a gig this night at CBGBs Gallery?
Thurs April 21 – mixing with Kramer for City & Eastern Songs album.
Fri April 22 – mixing with Kramer for City & Eastern Songs album. AND calendar notes say: “Sidewalk show”
Sat April 23 – mixing with Kramer for City & Eastern Songs album. AND The Green Goddess Mud Ball apartment show, Jeffrey Lewis Band w/ Cheese on Bread, Dreambitches and the Leader, apparently the gig got shut down for volume. Sat, April 23 – “Green Goddess Mud Ball”, 10pm to 3AM 315 Berry Street,6th floor, Williamsburg, Brooklyn www.gaiatreehouse.com “Burlesque by Darlinda Just Darlinda, Contortion by Emily Brodski, Songs and Projections by Missy Galore, Video Projections by Melissa Ulto, a Tesla Coil Demonstration by Gecko, Drinks by The House of St. Eve., Herbal Tonics Nat Bletter, Jeffrey Lewis Band on at 11 PM, followed by Cheese on Bread and maybe The Leader. For the costume minded: Ideas…. Nature in bloom, Earth-inspired, Spring abundance, Horn’ed and Fairy, and of course Green.”
Tues April 26 – North Six (66 N 6th St, btw Berry & Wythe, Williamsburg, Bklyn, near Bedford Ave L train). $12 (www.northsix.com) Benefit show for “Save Darfur”, raising awareness of genocide & crisis in Sudan. 8 – the fatales (www.thefatales.com) 9 – jeffrey lewis 10 – kevin devine (www.kevindevine.net) 11 – stars (www.arts-crafts.ca/stars) speakers: Dr. Annie Sparrow – Millennium Fellow in Human Rights, Harvard University, Human Rights Watch Kevin Phelan – Senior Press Officer, Doctors Without Borders “concert to benefit the Save Darfur Coalition, Doctors Without Borders, and Human Rights Watch” Save Darfur (www.savedarfur.org) Doctors Without Borders (www.msf.org) Human Rights Watch (www.hrw.org)
Thurs April 28 – Calendar notes for this day say: “Bard show?” (was this the show with The Books?)
Fri April 29 – Bowery Poetry Club NYC (Bowery near Bleecker), 6 $. 8 – Brook Pridemore 8:50 – Echolalia. 9:40 – Cockroach 10:30 – Jeff Lewis Band
Sat April 30 – Washington DC- “Burn Your Books” event gig at Georgetown University Leavey Esplanade. Free. Time: 12-8 pm. (changed from later time schedule). for info email >email@example.com . Jeffrey Lewis solo acoustic, 5 pm. >Aaron Estes 12-1 >Mortecai 1-2 >Midnight Roger 2-3 >Stamin and Pistol 3-4 >Sunday Mail 4-5 >Jeff Lewis 5-6 >Metropolitan 6-7 >Head-roc War Machine 7-8 (ft Jarobi of A Tribe Called Quest)
(NOTE: during the above period work was also being done on the Guggenheim comic book and the 500 drawings for the Hallso box set.
May 2005 – Dufus UK tour with Jeff Lewis along as solo acoustic support !
Thurs, May 5 – Brighton (Komedia, with Herman Dune, Diane Cluck & Thomas Truax!)
Fri, May 6 – Nottingham (Rescue Rooms)
Sat, May 7 – Leeds (Brudenell Social Club)
Sun, May 8 – Birmingham (Jug of Ale, Mosely)
Mon, May 9- Manchester (Jabezclegg)
Tue, May 10- Gateshead (St. Joseph’s Centre,Walker Terrace. with acoustic black metal band Impaled North Eastern Moonforest)
Wed, May 11 – Hull (Adelphi, with Thomas Truax!)
Thu, May 12 – Oxford (The Cellar)
Fri, May 13 – Lancaster (Feedback@Korner’s Bar, with Superkings)
Sat, May 14 -Leicester (Pride of Leicester, 19 Aylestone Road)
Sun, May 15 -London (Windmill, Brixton)
Mon, May 16- London (Bush Hall, changed from the Spitz; with Let’s Wrestle, formerly The Loners)
May 2005 FIRST EVER West Coast US tour: Jeffrey Lewis solo acoustic.
Fri May 20 – LA, 8:30 AM – live on 103.1 Indie Rock with Dicky Barrett
7:00 PM – Kaldi Café (organized/hosted by Channing Hansen)
3147 Glendale blvd
(Just east of the 5 Freeway)
Sat May 21 -LA, Ex-Plex, LA(below Echo; enter thru Glendale Blvd between Park & Montana) 7pm / $12 / all ages
10 – WHY?
9 – Resitform Bodies
8 -Blond Chili
7 -Jeffrey Lewis
Sun May 22 – LA, Spaceland – 9pm, doors @8:30. (I play 1st, then somebody, then Architecture.in Helsinki)
Mon May 23 – Santa Cruz house party! 323 King St, 95060. Max Foreman, the Bookends, Penguin League and Jeffrey Lewis.
Tues May 24 -San Fran – House party with The Flag Poles, Jeffrey Lewis, & Jeff Manson! 400 Anderson St, a block south of Cortland in
the Bernal Heights neighborhood. Free! “Folks should bring food and booze. The show will start up at around ten o’clock.”
Wed May 25 -San Fran – Opal’s place – 150 Delta, the east side of John McLaren Park in San Francisco (one can go to map quest or google.), with Elke & others? 8 pm. Potluck dinner too! Bring food!
Thu May 26 – travel day.
Fri May 27 – Portland, Oregon (at Voodoo Donuts, 10 PM) with Tony Green. He’s a really great songwriter I recently got into.
Sat May 28 – Olympia, Washington – ABC House, with Al (Some Velvet Sidewalk) Larson + special guests!”The ABC House” (enter ’round back)
4th & Sherman, Olympia, WA. I think it will be a $4 show with doors at 8:00
ALSO – during the day I plan to get a table at the Olympia Indie-Comix Fest! At the Capital Theater, 5th & Washington, downtown.
Sun May 29 – Seattle, Washington – on the street at Folk Life Fest (w/ Danny Kelly)
Then Jeffrey Lewis in Florida! With Joie Blaney and Paleface!
Wed June 1 – Bamboo Room, West Palm Beach, FL
Thurs, June 9 – Tonic, NYC – Jeffrey Lewis & the Jrones, with King of France, and The Mosquitos. $12, 8 PM.
Thurs June 23 – Jeffrey Lewis solo acoustic at Sidewalk, NYC.
Tuesday July 5 – NYC – Cakeshop (152 Ludlow St)(212) 253-0036. 7 – 10 PM. Art Stars for Norman Siegel- Fundraiser for Norman Siegel’s campaign for public advocate. For more info see here.
Hosted by Reverend Jen
Featuring The Trachtenburg Slide Show Family Players,
Jeffrey Lewis, Langhorne Slim, Brer Brian, Panty Mime and more!!!
Thurs, July 14 – Cinders Gallery (103 Havemeyer st. btwn Hope and Grand st. Williamsburg, Brooklyn 718-388-2311) FREE! (this gig was filmed for inclusion in the Williamsburg Will Oldham Horror music video)
8 PM – Jeffrey Lewis & Prewar Yardsale! (and maybe Dan Monaghan!)
Sat July 16 – big all-day filming day for the Williamsburg Will Oldham Horror video. The video for Posters filmed simultaneously during this same week, both made by Mark Locke.
2005 West Coast Return! Jeffrey Lewis, with brother Jack on bass, doing about a dozen shows out west in mid-late July…
Northwest dates, with Kimya Dawson, Jeffrey & Jack Lewis, the Pharmacy, and Chris Maher!
Mon, July 18th – Bellingham, WA (Kimya Dawson, The Pharmacy, Jeffrey & Jack Lewis, The Solvents, Chris Maher)
Tues July 19 – Chop Suey in Seattle >$7 / All Ages/Bar w/ID / 8pm door
Chris Maher 830-9
Jeff Lewis 9-930
Mt Eerie 945-1030
Kimya Dawson & The Pharmacy 10:45-12:00
Wed, July 20th – Olympia, WA, Le Voyuer, All Ages, 7 PM. [w/ Kimya, The
Pharmacy, Jeffrey & Jack Lewis, The Solvents.] [daytime Radio KAOS show also]
Thurs July 21st – Port Townsend , WA (The Pope Marine Building, all ages, 8 PM). Kimya Dawson, The Pharmacy, Jeffrey & Jack Lewis, The Solvents, Chris Maher.
Fri July 22nd – Portland, OR. Venue to be announced.
SAT 23 – Eugene, OR (WOW Hall, 291 W 8th Ave, 97401) Jeffrey & Jack Lewis are on at 7:30, followed by Android Ethic, Bishop Allen and We Are Scientists. ($ 5 )
SUN 24- San Francisco, the Makeout Room ($ 6)
3225 22nd Street, SF, CA 94110 (415) 647-2888
08:15 – 08:55 Jeffrey Lewis
09:15 – 09:55 Joel Murach
10:15 – 10:55 Robert Skoro
11:15 – 11:55 Tracorum
Mon July 25 – Chico, CA (with Barbara Manning!) Fulcrum Records, on Broadway &6th St., all ages.
Tues July 26- Davis, CA (G St. Pub; with Barbara Manning!)
Wed July 27 – Sacramento, CA – Fools Foundation, with Da Advantage and Glass Candy.
Thurs July 28 – Santa Cruz, CA – The Attic
Fri July 29 – LA (Spaceland, with Bob Log III and Barbara Manning.
August 2005 – UK tour with the Cribs & Black Wire, and festival slot at the Greenman Festival in Wales.
Email mailout said:
A quick UK trip for Jeffrey & Jack Lewis, playing 6 dates with the Cribs…
Tues Aug 16 – Brighton (Concorde 2)
Wed Aug 17 – Birmingham (Academy 2)
Thu Aug 18 – Edinburgh (Liquid Rooms)
Fri Aug 19 – Manchester (Bierkeller)
Sun Aug 21 – Jeffrey & Jack Lewis guest appearances on main stage at the Greenman Festival, Wales (www.theGreenmanFestival.co.uk )
Wed Aug 24 – Stoke-On-Trent (Sugarmill)
Thu Aug 25 – Coventry (Colosseum)
Fri, Aug 26 – LONDON, Brixton Windmill,(NO Cribs) Jeffrey & Jack Lewis (& support) 4 >pounds advance, 5 at the door
“If anybody with a car is able to drive Jack and me around for any or all of this trip that’d be great! I’ll pay gas costs. Otherwise Jack and I will just be riding busses or trains. Floors to sleep on are also always appreciated… In other news all of my comic books and home-made CDs are now being sold at the online store at www.OliveJuiceMusic.com which is much easier for everybody than my old method of selling things from my own website… for one thing, the Olive Juice site accepts PayPal, also prices are currency converted which is a good thing for all you folks overseas, considering the sinking dollar! Hope all’s well with all of you, Jeffrey Lewis”
August UK tour with the Cribs was great, especially the Greenman Festival in Wales!
Thanks to everyone who made this tour possible. More UK dates with the Cribs coming in Feb 2006!
(Aug 30, 2005 – final art approvals for City & Eastern Songs CD layout)
Fri Sept 2 – NYC, Mercury Lounge – w/ Sons & Daughters
Sat Sept 3 – Boston, MA – Middle East – w/ Sons & Daughters
Tues Oct 4- NYC, Cakeshop
Wed Oct.5th – Purchase College, NY – Hosted by Snowbeast (campus comedian) > the Solvients > Pleaseeasaur > Joe Jack Talcum (from the Dead Milkmen) > Jeff Lewis Band
Thurs Oct 7- NYC, at ABC NoRio on Rivington St
Europe/UK tour Fall 2005:
Adam Green & Jeffrey Lewis Band, Spain
Wed Oct 12 – Barcelona – Razzmatazz 2 (Pamplona, 88)
Thu Oct 13 – Valencia – Repvplicca 2 (Baix Vinalopó, 2)
Fri Oct 14 – Madrid – Arena (Princesa, 1)
Sat Oct 15 – Bilbao – Kafe Antzokia (San Vicente, 2)
JEFF LEWIS BAND+ SCHWERVON!
BL/ NETHERLANDS, OCTOBER 2005
Sun Oct 16 Botanique Brussel (B)
Mon Oct 17 – (Somewhere, I forget…)
Tues Oct 18 DB’s Utrecht (NL)
Wed Oct 19 Video Gent (B)
JEFF LEWIS Band+ SCHWERVON!
FRANCE, OCTOBER 2005
Thurs Oct 20 Point Ephemere – paris
Fri Oct 21 The Molodoi – Strasbourg
Sat Oct 22 Les Locaux Larsen – Chambery (Jack’s 25th birthday)
Mon Oct 24 toulouse – Le cri de la mouette
Tues Oct 25 bordeaux – The Inca
Thurs Oct 27 Rennes – Le Jardin Moderne
Fri Oct 28 Lille – Eksprim
JEFF LEWIS BAND + SCHWERVON!
GERMANY, OCTOBER 2005
Sat Oct 29 – Darmstadt – oettinger villa
Sun Oct 30 – Halle – Groþes Thalia Theater
Mon Oct 31 – berlin – mudd club
Tues Nov 1 – leipzig – nato
Wed Nov 2- wetzlar – kulturzentrum franzis
Thurs Nov 3- hamburg – weltbuehne
Fri Nov 4- kassel – barracuda bar
Sat Nov 5- koeln – blue shell
JEFF LEWIS BAND + SCHWERVON!
UK, NOVEMBER 2005
Sun November 06-London -The Windmill (cancelled due to deportation, rescheduled for Nov 15)
Mon November 07-Cardiff – Buffalo Bar (Jeff & Jack have to fly back to UK from Frankfurt)
Tues November 08-Bristol – Polish Club
Wed November 09-Nottingham-The Social
Thurs November 10-Manchester-Venue TBC
Fri November 11 Birmingham- The Jug of Ale
Sat November 12 Newcastle – The Telegraph
Sun November 13-Leeds-Brudenell Social Club
Mon November 14-Liverpool- Ping Pong
Tues November 15-London-Water Rats
October/November 2005 UK/Europe Jeffrey Lewis Band tour recently wrapped up, it was 5 full weeks of shows starting in Spain with Adam Green and continuing all over Europe and the UK with the wonderful Schwervon!
Nov 2005 – The Jeff Lewis Message Board is launched (by Dav in France), reaches its peak popularity in 2008, but is still in use as of 2017…
Sat Nov 26 – NYC – Sidewalk, Ave A & E 6th St, NYC, free (with a drink minimum) > 7:30-Mike Smith, > 8-Dina Dean (rare performance from one of NYC’s greatest!!) > 9-JAYMAY > 10-The Bowmans > 11-Jeffrey Lewis > 12- Just About To Burn
Mon Nov 28 – NYC- Mercury Lounge, 217 E Houston St, just west of Ave A, 10 bux > > 7:30 – Unbusted > 8:30 – The Cribs (big time UK rock band that we toured with in August) > 9:30 – Jeffrey Lewis Band > 10:30 – The Primms
Dec 2005 – GUFF # 3 is released
Thurs, DEC 22, 2005- 6th St Community Center 638 E 6th St, between B & C (relocated from Theater For the New City), NYC- Phil Ochs Birthday Tribute, organized by Bob Fass and WBAI! Featuring Jeffrey Lewis, Linda Draper, David Herman Dune, The Wowz, Peter Dizozza, Kirk Kelly, films, and more to be announced! Midnight – 3:30 am (starting Thursday night), free, also broadcast live on WBAI.
Fri, DEC 23, 2005 Cakeshop, 152 Ludlow St, NYC, $5
8 – John Kessel
9 – Li-Lund (Lisa Herman Dune) (replaced by Rachel Lipson)
9:30 – David-Ivar Herman Dune’s Ya-Ya
10:30 – Schwervon!
11:30 – Jeff Lightning Lewis & The Meteorites
Thurs Dec 29 2005
Brian Piltin (didn’t show up!)
Seth uv Dufus
South 1st St just east of Kent Ave (by the river)
All Ages! Maybe 3 bucks. 9 PM start.
(that’s about 108 documented gigs in 2005, but it’s not a fully documented year)